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strcpy · May 17, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

If GW was multi-play only you may have a point, but it is not. GW is an online multi-player *OR* single-player. It even says so on the box and in their adverts.
It is no one's fault but your own that you read half the stuff and ignored the rest.

Of course, one of the best lines in this whole thing from the OP - notice the bolded part:

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if i had quest active i would do it alone and wouldent need help.

I'm sure you *really* meant "if I had the quest active I would help all that spam the local channel, though I wouldn't need help". Especially since this is a *mulit-player game* and solo farming points is not the correct way to play and all those that do suck. We can chalk that up to not speaking English well instead of being, well, something else that would most likely get censored.

Water Angel · May 17, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36

yes. cus at opposit of you maybe if someone ask help for somethign i know it wont be a problem, i always take him.

not everyone is noob or so freakin incompetent to the point to be scared one crap guy or 2 in my pug is too much for me to handle.
you are all so pros, but you scared 2 noobs in team for instance is too much for your leetness to get over?hilarious.

maybe im not uber leet but at last i know i can handle noob or 2 in my group, and than something like *help* isnt a crime.

ina 8 man group, u can as well ignore the 2 noobs let them do their shiet if they do any and focus on your farming.especially in shaldja where the thing can be done by 4 people.what mean even with 4 noobs in team you still can do it fast.

but generally ya. you say you are too good for pugs, but if you are really too good for some pug noob, why ur so so cared to take him over and than he make you fail?cmon arent you pro.rofl.

ogre-mage · May 17, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41

I like the responses you got, OP. One guy insulting your spelling, others telling you to STFU. Although you should seriously take this up with the people calling you a noob, not us.

Cacheelma · May 17, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

not everyone is noob or so freakin incompetent to the point to be scared one crap guy or 2 in my pug is too much for me to handle.
you are all so pros, but you scared 2 noobs in team for instance is too much for your leetness to get over?hilarious.

How about this: We don't feel like/have time to babysit?

What is the point you are trying to make again? That people should play with other people so that this COMMUNITY survives for a little longer?

Let me tell you: If I'm forced to play this game with people ALL THE TIME, I won't be here. No matter how good everyone else in this game is.

explodemyheart · May 17, 2007, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Water Angel's pretty much a perfect example of why I choose not to play with random people.

Etta · May 17, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

wow I can see the french man is still angry! And I thought he would clam down after a glass of french fine wind and their awesome food last night. WA, no matter what you try or do here won't change people's mind, if they rather farm, quest, mission by their lonesome. You can't just go and force it out of them. What about your guild? Aren't they interest in teaming up with you?

Lastly I don't know what the french districts are like, are they completely empty?

Kale Ironfist · May 17, 2007, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

even you gw friends,how u met them? people keep met new people in guilds,pugs,etc etc.half of people in your gw f.list are people you randomly met in game, playing with, pugging,doing missions, or talkin in cities...when they was strangers too before be in your friendlist.

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not everyone is noob or so freakin incompetent

Unfortunately, the number of people who have shattered my faith in the community outnumber the number of people on my friends list by at least 4 to 1. Then instead of examining why the team as a whole failed, they become abusive to others and leave the party.

Also, I can expect the henchmen to act a certain way. Bringing in variables (ie other players) destroy the plans I make.

cellardweller · May 17, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

and if you go to club and neva bother talk to someoen else than people you already know yo uare sure neva get more friends.

even the hottie you're trying catch, is a stranger isnt she? she is, but you u still do go to her, and try get in touch...with a perfect stranger? aww cmon.

i read all this threads and seem msot of people dun seen the op like me.

i dont say people how to play, just they COULD be a lil more open to stranger or somethign else than hench.it's not like *you must pug or you're a moron*, just all pugs arent crap,and sometime give it a chance may be a good occasion have fun or get more friends.

even you gw friends,how u met them? people keep met new people in guilds,pugs,etc etc.half of people in your gw f.list are people you randomly met in game, playing with, pugging,doing missions, or talkin in cities...when they was strangers too before be in your friendlist.

now you have heroes for do missions.but before heroes how many were spending ages ina hard mission trying get desperatly a team cus henchies was too weak?lots.

you tell me you have friends/guildies for that.ok.but if u neva puged or bothered talk to strangers you would neva met these friends or even the guy who recruited you in the guild.and even then, when you rejoin a guild, you dont know all persons in, they are still strangers, but you talk to them?funny.

To continue with the analogy, you talk to the hottie in the corner because 1) she's hot and 2) you both gone through rituals to indicate attraction to one another. When you do approach her, you have a witty line that will make her want her to talk to you.

Randomly inviting yourself into peoples groups is the equivilent of walking over and groping her bits.

Friend networks are created by finding people you have things in common with and whose company you enjoy, and then playing with them, not the other way around.

reetkever · May 17, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Well, basicly a human player is just annoying compared to a hero/henchie/friend

Why take a random guy for a thing that can be done alone?

When I come home from work, I want to play alone sometimes (Not Lightbringer farming, but I DO clear the Shattered Ravines now and then), and the LAST thing I want then is a random guy kicking against my legs telling me that I must accept him.

Sure, I miss the days where I went with good people to do a mission, but these days are over now. Now, noobs can get everything they want with a push on the button and the result is noob people with good weapons/armor.

No need for skills anymore in this game, everyone can be cranky and pissed off at another and whatever and still win. And since more and more expert players are leaving this game every day, chances are HIGH that you'll end up with a noob/leaver/annoying person/AFK-er when accepting people.

Superdarth · May 17, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

He has a point though: I didnt buy this game to solo it all the time, i bought a multiplayer game and id like people to be more multiplayer when playing it. Why not buy a single player RPG if you want to solo?

Bubba · May 17, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

He has a point though: I didnt buy this game to solo it all the time, i bought a multiplayer game and id like people to be more multiplayer when playing it. Why not buy a single player RPG if you want to solo?

Because I like to have a choice, and that choice also includes when and with whom.

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

and if you go to club and neva bother talk to someoen else than people you already know yo uare sure neva get more friends.

even the hottie you're trying catch, is a stranger isnt she? she is, but you u still do go to her, and try get in touch...with a perfect stranger? aww cmon.

Uhm....I'm not even going to think about hitting on a female mesmer or ele in GW, so what's your point?

You can't really compare meeting in real life and in a video game.

Water Angel · May 17, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

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Originally Posted by explodemyheart

Water Angel's pretty much a perfect example of why I choose not to play with random people.

ya and that's prolly why your only friends are henchman and neva helped anyone in your life.

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Originally Posted by etta

What about your guild? Aren't they interest in teaming up with you?

Lastly I don't know what the french districts are like, are they completely empty?

My guild is ha/pvp only.and friends all like me did the quest too.but that nvm.
about districts,i play on american server so cant really say.

and im not angry.just cant stop laugh. obviously from answers i got there is on this forum more friendless people than i though.

Superdarth · May 17, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

[QUOTE=Bubba]Because I like to have a choice, and that choice also includes when and with whom.QUOTE]

True, but if people always or 9 out of 10 times go for the "alone" option they are better off in a single player RPG since obviously they dont like MMO's.

Cacheelma · May 17, 2007, 08:44 AM // 08:44

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

He has a point though: I didnt buy this game to solo it all the time, i bought a multiplayer game and id like people to be more multiplayer when playing it. Why not buy a single player RPG if you want to solo?

Who says people don't buy those AND GW too?

In any case, feel free to point me to the game that is as good as Guild Wars, offline or not, IF you can.

Spazzer · May 17, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

Well, you could always play by yourself in the Elder Scrolls games, Mr Cacheelma :P

explodemyheart · May 17, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

He has a point though: I didnt buy this game to solo it all the time, i bought a multiplayer game and id like people to be more multiplayer when playing it.

Just because they're not playing with you at that particular moment doesn't mean they're not playing with other real people ever.

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

Why not buy a single player RPG if you want to solo?

Maybe they, oh, I don't know, like Guild Wars? I'm not sure if you ever noticed, but Guild Wars is a game all its own. While it may share similar aspects with other single player games, it is still not the same game. If I enjoy Guild Wars, I'm going to play Guild Wars, other players or not and either way it shouldn't matter. The person is there and not playing with you or the person is playing another game and not playing with you... both pretty much the same result. I guess your argument just disappeared.

Also realize that this game has two aspects to it. PvP and PvE and the "multi-player" aspect was much more evolved around PvP than PvE. You can have a full party of heroes + henchmen in PvE, not so much in PvP.

Age · May 17, 2007, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

ok will be 3 weeks now im observing same thing.

people farm lb and ss points in hardmode outside sahladja using a show of force quest.

i did mine long ago when beat nf just as it was out before people even start farm them.

i see 20 people + all time in sahladja doing this runs, but when ask if someone doing it and cud take me no answer...or get called of noob cus dun have quest or be say to stfu..

ok people you think i moan, some another unhappy noob? i play since beta, all caracters past all campaigns and most have maxed titles.so in how im noob askin someoen pick me cus one caracter did quest?

the point is : FOR GOD SAKE ITS A MULTI PLAYER GAME ! if you want play alone with hench go back to d2 single mode play or nwn.i udnerstand some ppl dotn cus afraid of noobs in mission..but here we talk about FARMING..

you/people go farm with 8 hench..ok what it would cost you replace oen of hench by a human for help him?nothing.cept no one care everyone in his lil buisness and play for his own butt.no excuses.

will take a human instead the 8th hench make you win less points?get worse drops?make sick?die?NO.

so for god sake people stop freakin be so egoist and imbued of yourself.its a mmorpg and if anet wanted to people play only with hench they would make it liek that.

stop be egoist people and learn to play.you're not alone in life nor in this world.and if everyone was doing liek that you still would be all crying in any harder mission.

You said you played this since or played in beta if so you would know that this game is not an MMORPG it is CCORPG.It is suppose to be played with people but with henchies and now heros you have that alternative to use them instead.I will say this that it is way more funner to play with real ppl .That it is why the AI will never be as good as a decent player.There are bad players in this game.

Bubba · May 17, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

True, but if people always or 9 out of 10 times go for the "alone" option they are better off in a single player RPG since obviously they dont like MMO's.

Why are they better off? It's not as if GW doesn't offer the solo player any fun or that a different game is any better. in a single player game they'd be stuck playing by themselves, now they have an option.

Don't get me wrong here, I play together with others on multiple occasions, but it seems as if everyone who "advises" someone to buy a single player game is only doing so because they feel the other should and not because the one you're talking about feels that way. Why on earth would you tell someone what to do with their money and what they should or should not like? Regardless of what game they are playing, they have no impact on you what so ever, because they don't play with you anyway. (no offense here, just trying to make a point

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Dr Strangelove · May 17, 2007, 09:01 AM // 09:01

There's nothing more fun for me than getting a great group together, and using awesome skills and tactics to make monster-goo out of everything.

That being said, I don't have to spend 15 minutes arguing with Koss that he probably shouldn't run his mending/healing breeze/power attack build. If people don't want to play with you, yelling at them and telling them they should play with you really isn't going to fix much.

Etta · May 17, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

Why not buy a single player RPG if you want to solo?

Because you can't hit start on the second controller on final fantasy 12, or insert coins for second player in morrowind. I play with my girlfriend most of the time when I'm on GW. Our pcs set up next to each other so we don't even need vent.

And somtime friends from work would log in and join us as well or guildies who want to team up. GW is not mmorpg like wow or ff11, it's can be play however you wanted to.